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April 22[edit]

NYC Mayor[edit]


In New York City mayoral election, 2017 #Results there is a weird code sequence I cannot get rid of. Can someone help please?


WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:08, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@WhatsUpWorld: I undid this unlikely edit, which broke the formatting. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Move draft to article space[edit]

I just finished my draft of a movie, and I’m trying to get it moved/published to the article space, but the instructions I found are not working for me. How do I do this?

Thanks! MissTofATX (talk) 02:58, 22 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX

Hello MissTofATX. I guess you are talking aboout Draft:Teenage Seductress (1975 Film). You could simply move it to article space, but I don't recommend that unless you are pretty sure it meets the standard for an article. A better solution, when it's ready, is to submit it for review by inserting {{subst:submit}} (with the double curly brackets) at the top. In time, a reviewer will look at it, and either accept it and move it to main space, or decline it and give you the reasons.
However, it is not worth submitting it at present, because it hasn't got a single reference. Please remember that Wikipedia has no interest whatever in what a random person on the internet thinks or knows about a subject - whether that random person is you, me, or anybody else. All Wikipedia articles need to be entirely based on what reliable published sources say about the subject, and ideally these sources should be cited: please see referencing for beginners.
Two other points: first, the parenthesised explanation "(1975 Film)" should not be in the title unless it is required to distinguish the article from something else with the same name. Don't worry about that now, though: the accepting reviewer will sort it out when they move it to main space. More seriously, the image is almost certainly not acceptable for copyright reasons. Images can be uploaded to Commons only if they are free for reuse (i.e. have been explicitly released by the copyright owner). This is rarely the case for film posters, and unless you can provide evidence that this has been released, it will shortly be deleted from Commons. However, Wikipedia articles about films and books do sometimes use images of their posters according to the non-free content criteria. Such images must be uploaded to Wikipedia itself, not Commons, and all the criteria must be met. One of the criteria is that the image must be used in at least one article in main-space, so if you go that route, you will need to wait until the article has been moved into main space before uploading the image. Please see WP:Image use policy. --ColinFine (talk) 08:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
@ColinFine:, Yes that is the movie. the ability to "move" the draft was what I was referring to when I said I had instructions that were not working for me. Where are good places to look for movie posters/images to utilize in such a reference? What I had now was a movie poster image. What qualifies as a proper reference for the movie? I've read lots of film plots on wiki and have not seen something specifically referencing it?

thanks! MissTofATX (talk) 09:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX

Hello again MissTofATX. I should give up worrying about the image for the moment. You're unlikely to find a free-for-use image, so it's irrelevant until the article is in mainspace. Images are icing on the cake anyway: the important thing about an article is its references.
It's established that the film itself can be used as the source for the plot summary (see MOS:PLOT). But unless you get some solid reliable references about the film, the article will never be accepted, because you will not have established that the film is notable. Wikipedia is only interested in subjects where several people, unconnected with the subject, have chosen to write in some depth about it, and been published in reliable places. That is what the bulk of every Wikipedia article should be based on: a plot summary is only a little more important than an image. See WP:NOTPLOT--ColinFine (talk) 09:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Edits to .30-378 Weatherby Magnum[edit]

gdoo1 i dont know how this reference go in here but i didnt refer to it,,,and dont know how to remove it....The reference, if any is needed is me. I was there at the time and am writing the facts from that position — Preceding unsigned comment added by William strickland (talkcontribs) 04:12, 22 April 2018 UTC (UTC)

Edits based on a Wikipedia editor's personal activities are not allowed. Per WP:V edits must be based on reliable, published sources. Jc3s5h (talk) 05:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Change in a (hidden) table[edit]

Hello, I wanted to modify the table contained in "Plantations of Louisiana"; when I click on "Edit" I don't find the table...It seems it is referenced somewhere else. Where do I have to go to change some faulty entries? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RBETZ (talkcontribs) 10:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@RBETZ: I guess you mean List of plantations in Louisiana. The code is there. Click the Edit tab at top of the page or the edit link at the heading of the section you want to edit. Maybe you clicked edit at the following section. If you mean another page then please post a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Just to be certain, if you click "Edit" you will get the visual editor which displays the page almost as the page renders to the reader. If you are not familiar with vis-ed, might be be best to click "Edit source" to display the code. Eagleash (talk) 16:13, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Editor seeking suggestions for articles to edit[edit]

Re:what kind of article would u reccomend me to start editing?[1] I vaguely recall running across something that will recommend articles to edit, but I'm not finding it with quick searches. Are they still available? Can someone provide other suggestions for WikiPro04? --Ronz (talk) 15:28, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Maybe User:SuggestBot. See also Wikipedia:GettingStarted#Try it out and Wikipedia:Community portal#Help out. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

My signature.[edit]

Hello, I'm trying to make a signature (code is this:In Memoriam A.H.H.Hear ye!), However, Wikipedia says there is an error and won't let me use it as a wiki markup. Your help will be appreciated concerning my signature. Thanks. In Memoriam A.H.H. (I am good at fighting windmills.) 20:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Might be better to ask at WP:VPT. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Write lowercase <sup>...</sup>: In Memoriam A.H.H.Hear ye!. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)



I've worked on some pages, for example Lanzarote Airport. When I was editing I accidentally deleted something. Now, I feel bad, because I've got a warning (I think). I was editing some information when someone deleted my changes and said; caution. What do I have to do? Daniël Nefs (talk) 21:28, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@Daniel Nefs: Hello, the problem seems to be ethat you added a date in respect of service resumption without providing a reliable source to corroborate your information. It's not a particularly serious situation — some editors would probably have given a milder 'caution as a result of your edit. As it says at your talk page you are quite at liberty to restore the information providing you supply a source. Please see WP:RS for what consitutes a good source and WP:REFB for a guide to adding citations. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 22:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I understand, but at the wikipedia page of Groningen Airport Eelde does these dates come from. I can put in a source at the english one. Daniël Nefs (talk) 07:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@Daniel Nefs: If there is information at a Wikipedia page which is referenced you can use it in another Wiki. page. However, you must provide an independent reliable source. (You can use the same source, it does not have to be in English). You cannot use a Wiki page as a reference (see WP:UGC). If you copy content from one Wiki. page to another, you must attribute it per WP:CWW. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 08:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, that's clear. Thank you Daniël Nefs (talk) 12:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Question by Iain C. Phillips[edit]

How do I "escalate" a Talk piece to a Wikipedia contribution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iain C. Phillips (talkcontribs) 22:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@Iain C. Phillips: I am assuming you mean this [2]. You can check out this page, WP:YFA, which will guide you on creating a draft for a Wikipedia article. I would recommend checking out WP:Notability and WP:RS first, as all articles must pass Wikipedia's notability criteria and have reliable, third party sources. Please note that if you have a close connection with the subject it must be declared (check out WP:PSCOI). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:21, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Upon further investigation, it looks like all or a majority of that content is copied from ( Please note that Wikipedia has strict rules about copyright and all text added to Wikipedia must be in your own words (with some minor exceptions). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:30, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

April 23[edit]

Philip Milito[edit]

Draft article on Philip Milito

Philip Milito (February 28, 1953 – June 16, 2016) was an American poet, born and raised in the Northeast Bronx. He produced thousands of poems. He also contributed numerous critical commentaries to The Canadian Encyclopedia and Banned Books: Literature Suppressed on Religious Grounds.[1] His poetry is notable for its evocative imagery, the struggle with God and the human condition, its occasional biting humor, and its dark vision. His often quoted poem Twice-Poisoned Dog[2] reflects his worldview, at least in part: “We desire the way / A twice-poisoned dog / Eyes a third piece of meat.” He was particularly interested in, and felt a kinship with, society’s outcasts, a subject that he explored in depth in his book-length poem, Wails of the Wraecca, which was inspired by the old English Anglo-Saxon poem The Wanderer.

Early Years Milito attended St. Lucy’s School, PS 89, JHS 135, Christopher Columbus High School, and Hunter College.

Milito developed a strong interest in poetry and music as a teenager and began to compose original poems and lyrics. He also became an accomplished harmonica player. After leaving Hunter College, Milito moved to the Los Angeles area, but he returned to New York City in 1978 and worked at a variety of odd jobs while he continued to write and occasionally publish. In 1988, he began to work at the Mid-Manhattan Library, a branch of the New York Public Library in Manhattan, and a year later joined the staff of the Henry W. and Albert A. Berg Collection of English and American Literature at the New York Public Library on 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue, where he served a specialized reading public for nearly 20 years, before retiring in 2008 to write full time.

Influences Milito read both widely and deeply, and his eclectic literary taste found a home in the work of many writers and musicians, chief among them Bob Dylan and Kenneth Rexroth. Other influences included James Agee, W. H. Auden, Charles Baudelaire, William Blake, Charles Bukowski, Leonard Cohen, James Joyce, Malcolm Lowry, Kenneth Patchen, Arthur Rimbaud, and Walt Whitman, to name only some of those he read continually throughout his lifetime.

Death In May 2015, Milito was diagnosed with inoperable liver cancer. He died on June 16, 2016, in Astoria, New York, at Mt. Sinai Hospital of Queens.

Milito’s later work is available on the blog that he kept, which contains hundreds of poems written from 2008 to just a week before his death[3]. A collection of selected poems is currently being compiled, with plans for future publication in progress.

SELECTED WORKS BY PHILIP MILITO The Moon Hidden by Clouds. (1994; revised and reissued 2016). “We desire,” in Bleeding Hearts, ed. Michelle Lovric (London: Aurum Press, Ltd., 1998).[4] Wails of the Wraecca (New York: The Anarchist Press, 1999). “Ephelia, by Maureen E. Mulvihill,” Book Review, Seventeenth Century News (Spring-Summer 2004): 119–123. Banned Books: Literature Suppressed on Religious Grounds, Revised Edition, ed. Margaret Bald (New York: Facts on File, July 2011).[5] Contributed entries (comprehensive book summaries, detailed censorship history, recommended reading) for: • Karen Armstrong, The Battle for God. • Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code. • Sadegh Hedayat, The Blind Owl. • Jyette Klausen, The Cartoons That Shook the World. • Shahrnush Parsipur, Touba and the Meaning of Night. • Philip Pullman, His Dark Materials trilogy: The Golden Compass; The Subtle Knife; The Amber Spyglass. Canadian Encyclopedia Online — (Toronto: Institut de Historica-Dominion, 2011). Contributed biographical and critical essays on Canadian poets: • Richard Thomas Greene • Anne Simpson • Anne Compton • Rita Wong • John Pass • Judith Fitzgerald • John Steffler • John Terpstra • Carmine Starnino • Robert Hillies • Barry Dempster • Douglas Lochhead • Patrick Friesen

Citations 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Sianb1234 (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Sianb1234


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Please read Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. Maproom (talk) 07:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

B Bush[edit]

May 15, 2010 Sewanee: The University of the South TE Doctorate[10

Last line before foot notes TE should be TN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:243:701:2CE9:2845:FD69:694D:3AAC (talk) 01:50, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

It's been fixed (in Barbara Bush): Noyster (talk), 08:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


My name is Jerry Story. My 16th Grandfather is Robert Arden

Story. The name changed from Arden to Story following War of the Roses.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC) 
And what does that have to do with editing Wikipedia? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Delete question --Bluebob ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by XXMasterGrammer56Xx (talkcontribs) 15:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Diana, Princess of Wales[edit]

Should reference number 47 have the publisher - BBC - written in italics? I note that many of the other publishers in the citations from newspapers/books seem to be. Thanks (talk) 03:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

The publisher parameter does not automatically italicise the content whereas the 'work' and 'website' parameters do. Italics are meant for things such as newspapers, magazines, films etc. I.e. a 'work' in the creative sense. In this case the BBC is an 'organisation' and therefore not normally italicised. If you'd used website and (say) then it would have rendered in italics. Eagleash (talk) 06:33, 23 April 2018

THANKS (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]


I'm working on creating a page and seemed to have misunderstood the process of citing. I thought I was following citation guidelines but the reference portion of the page came out like this: [1] Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "LoC" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

What might I have done wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Performaphage (talkcontribs) 15:51, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Performaphage. It looks as if you have defined multiple citations (which is fine) but given them all the same name (which is not). If you would tell us which page this was on, we could look. The only content page you appear to have edited is Draft:CultureHub, which you started after this message. I'm guessing you must have edited a page without logging in (which is fine) but we can't find it unless you tell us. --ColinFine (talk) 16:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


On the Islamic state of Iraq and the levent along the side it says that "state opponents" and "non-state opponents", I don't think that those words (that i put in quotes) are the proper words, but i can not edit that to make it correct because it has a lock on it. Could you guys fix that please to help me better understand ISIS.

XXMasterGrammer56Xx (talk) 15:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)XXMasterGrammer56Xx
Hello, XXMasterGrammer56Xx. Please make your suggestion on the talk page Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. It will help if you indicate what you think is wrong with those words, or what they should be changed to, because I have no idea what you think is wrong. --ColinFine (talk) 16:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Page Deleted[edit]

Hello There, In 2014 I tired to edit the page of my late grandfather. I'm not sure how this all works, but the page was created by someone at some point non of my family and i would like to add more details to his life. instead of where he was born and where he died.

Can someone help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FCosway (talkcontribs) 16:48, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

@FCosway: Can you provide a link or at least a pagename so someone can look at the current situation? You seem to indicate that the page was deleted. Have you seen that information anywhere? Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).
Or is this to do with Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Vic Sutton. If so, click on that link and you will find a link to a page where you can request restoration of the page and also a link to the Admin. who deleted it, who may be able to help. Eagleash (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, FCosway. Wikipedia works rather differently from how many people expect it to. It is the norm that articles are written by people who are not family of the subject: friends, relatives, and associates of a subject are discouraged from directly editing an article about the subject. If you wish to suggest improvements to the article about your grandfather, you are welcome to suggest them on the article's talk page - if you add {{edit request}} (with the double curly brackets) it will put your suggestion on a list of waiting edits. Secondly, we require that all information be found in reliably published sources. If information you want to add has been published somewhere, it can be added (it will be helpful if you identify the sources, but another editor might be able to find them). But if it is only from your personal recollection, or from unpublished papers, I'm afraid we can't use the information. --ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Needs Urgent action on Unsocial elements trying to delete or edit false at my page[edit]

Moved here from Wikipedia talk:Help desk/Archives -- John of Reading (talk) 17:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Kindly Guide me how we can stop or take action against some unsocial Elements who are doing wrong false edition at my page which was recently created by name Bappusaheb Bhosale , I will request to guide me about the same . Thank you B Bhosale (talk) 16:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

  • The article Bappusaheb Bhosale was deleted by a community discussion (this one) because it did not comply with the sourcing requirements of WP:BIO (in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources). You may appeal the deletion at this page, or may ask for the page to be restored to Draft space so you can work on it to try to fix the problems that led to it being deleted. No urgent action is required, and nor are the users involved "unsocial elements"; they are merely normal editors performing normal tasks. Also, your name is the same as the article - although I note you did not write the original article, this is just to note you should not be writing about yourself. Black Kite (talk) 17:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest[edit]

Hi! Is there a page where i can report COI? I would do it myself but i have no experience with it, or admin rights to enforce it. Thank you --Ben Stone 20:38, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

@Benstown: Check out WP:COIN. I haven't used it myself, so read the guidelines there before making a report. RudolfRed (talk) 20:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit toolbar icons[edit]

The icons have changed. When did that happen, and can I go back to the icons I'm familiar with?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:33, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

It's announced in Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Tech News: 2018-17:
I don't know a way to go back. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, PrimeHunter.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

April 24[edit]

Integrating a sandbox with existing Wikipedia content[edit]

I have written an article in my personal sandbox that I want to integrate with existing wikipedia articles, but none of those articles cover the overall development of the body of work. Each article in the overall space covers their specific piece of work but do not fit it into the broader set of activities. As a metaphor, each article covers the development of some house subsystem (e.g. electrical, plumbing, heating, etc) but there is no article about how the house itself was assembled, and subsystems created. How do I introduce the overall entry into the wikipedia content and then tie specific articles into it.

In addition, many of the articles to be stitched into the larger fabric are somewhat out of date, and perhaps not actively maintained. Are their effective ways to prod the editors of those pages to maintain their content. (There were at least five main pages that were out of date in referencing various initiatives within the larger fabric.) Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjklingenstein (talkcontribs) 03:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kjklingenstein: If you think an article needs improvement, please fix it, or post suggestions on the article's talk page. Regarding the draft you have created at User:Kjklingenstein/sandbox , it appears it may be Original Research, which is not allowed. If I am mistaken, then please read WP:YFA for guidance and tips on creating an article. RudolfRed (talk) 03:10, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Kjklingenstein:. Fixing the ping. RudolfRed (talk) 03:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Kjklingenstein: one problem with the content of your sandbox is all the unexplained abbreviations: R&E, PKI, IETF, SAML, LDAP, OASIS, WG, etc. Maproom (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Error on the 'Succession to the English Throne' page.[edit]

Reads 'Charlotte & her new-born brother, as yet unnamed' should read '& their new brother ...........

Graham Payne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham Payne (talkcontribs) 03:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Done. Pedant point: It's the British throne. Rojomoke (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I've edited my submission which was refused. How long to wait before I receive an answer on the edit?[edit]

I've edited my submission which was refused. How long to wait before I receive an answer on the edit?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonkieding (talkcontribs) 06:36 am, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Leonkieding, please sign your posts to discussion pages so we know who to reply to, and link to the page you are referring to. If this is about Draft:Binaural Brainwave Art, it was last declined at Articles for creation in January. If you believe you have made substantial improvements to meet the concerns expressed then, you should re-submit the draft by editing the page to insert the code {{subst:submit}} and publishing changes. It will help reviewers if you can expand the references to display author, title, date and where published. Guidance on doing this is already on your talk page: Noyster (talk), 10:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
You had lost the "Resubmit" button because you had deleted the feedback (which was labelled with "Do not remove this line!"). I have reinstated the feedback, so you've got the resubmit button back. Before you resubmit you need to remove the misplaced external links from the text of the draft. You may wish to turn some of those links to properly formatted references. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles that need editing[edit]

Is there a way of finding articles that need extra citations/extra content? When you first join it gives you 10 to edit, but I can't find how to do it again. Sir7 16 (talk) 10:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Here is a list of over 300,000 articles that someone said needs references, Category:All articles with unsourced statements. ~ GB fan 10:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

removal of refs back to wikipedia[edit]

Is there anything special that should be done on removing references back to wikipedia? For example Newark, New Jersey contains <ref></ref>. using the deadlink template instead doesn't seem correct...Naraht (talk)

I've removed that ref to Wikipedia. I would have added a wikilink to the Nat Turner article – but there's already one there. Maproom (talk) 13:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, I'll see in the future if it makes sense to link. There are over 300 in mainspace. (I did a search for insource:ref>https://en.wikipedia ) no guarantee that that is close to all of them.Naraht (talk) 18:20, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible entry by person paid to create it on behalf of another[edit]

I would appreciate your review of the issue I've just raised in my addition to the talk page at Do I have a valid point here? Isn't there a rule against someone creating an entry if that person is being paid to do so on behalf of another? By the way, I happen to love Tana French's writing and have read most of her books, so I have no no vendetta or axe to grind. But I would hate to see Wikipedia tainted by commercialism. Thanks, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, BuzzWeiser196. Thanks for helping us improve Wikipedia. There are several issues here:
  • information does not belong in Wikipedia unless it has been reliably published somewhere. Period. If you find unsourced information in an article, you may remove it. If you think it might be right, then it would be better to find a citation yourself, or mark it with {{citation needed}} if you haven't the time or inclination to do so. But if you think it is wrong or unverifiable, be BOLD and remove it. (If you remove it, and it turns out that there is a source that is relatively easy to find, another editor might be annoyed with you, but they can always restore it with a citation).
  • for certain purposes, information can come from non-independent sources (eg the subject's own website)- see WP:PRIMARY. But I would agree that announcements of future publications or releases are not usually appropriate unless they have already been the subject of independently-published notice. (See WP:CRYSTALBALL).
  • The last two entries in the book list were inserted by Panderson458 (who I have just pinged). Most of that user's recent edits appear to be adding 2018 publications to articles about authors, so I would concur with you that the are probably here for promotional reasons, and very likely paid to do so. Panderson458, if I am wrong about that I apologise; but in any case please stop inserting the names of books without citations. And if you are in any way involved with the authors or their publishers or agents, please review the advice for editors with a conflict of interest (and particularly the constraints on paid editing if that is relevant), and be aware that promotion of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 13:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, ColinFine. BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Searching for terms used by vandals[edit]

Hello! I've recently noticed some repetitive and just plain nasty cases of vandalism on the Simple English wiki committed by IP addresses registered to Italian ISPs (such as this one), which I would like to track down. Is there a way to use the Recent Changes page to show, for example, all anonymous IP edits which involved replacing all content on a page in the Wikipedia namespace with a particular word, such as the F-word? I already know how to filter results to certain namespaces and to anonymous editors, but if I can further search for particular terms, such as those used in edit summaries, it could aid in tracking cases of LTA. Thanks and regards, ««« SOME GADGET GEEK »»» (talk) 14:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

How about Lupin's Anti-vandal tool? It's quite old, but it still works. It has a list of bad words that it detects in recent changes (which you can prudently edit, if there's anything you wish to add). I don't know if it supports anything other than en.wikipedia, or has as specific of tools as you want, though. LittlePuppers (talk) 16:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Related to deletion of a page - Bahujan Azad Party[edit]

I have placed the following deletion tag 'subst:afd' on the Wikipedia page Bahujan Azad Party. I would like to ask the following questions to clarify certain points regarding this:
1. This page has been created by a user User:SoganSinghBakra who does not have a userpage. Do I have to create their userpage to inform the user of the same?
2. Am I following correct procedure? Apart from placing the tag and stating my reason on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahujan Azad Party do I have to do anything else?
3. I understand that only a admin can delete a page. But i just want to clarify about who can create the discussion page also.
DiplomatTesterMan 14:56, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so i was reading the third step in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, "Open the articles for deletion log page for editing", but then by that time User:cyberbot I had already done that. So that is one thing I missed out. DiplomatTesterMan 15:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@DiplomatTesterMan: Regarding question 1: You leave the notification on User talk:SoganSinghBakra, not on the user page. Deor (talk) 15:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Deor: I have added the message on the talk page User talk:SoganSinghBakra. This was a silly overlook on my part, I was looking for his the userpage and not his the talkpage. Thanks for the help. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:21, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
DiplomatTesterMan, also, as the nominator, you shouldn't !vote, it's assumed that you want deletion. If you go to your Preferences, then Gadgets and tick Twinkle, it will give you a menu to automate this and many other simple tasks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Ok, that was a mistake with the formatting on my part, I wanted to give the reason as to why i was nominating it for deletiion like I saw with other AFDs, but I put the "Delete:" part which I shouldn't have which should be reserved only when voting. Thanks. Will be sure not to overlook that for other nominations in the future if required.
Will check Twinkle out. Thanks for the help.DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

{{lang-ber|.........}} should display BERBER and not BERBER LANGUAGES[edit]

Hello boys and girls,

Somebody has changed what the editing code {{lang-ber|.......}} displays on Wikipedia pages. They changed it from displaying Berber (singular) to displaying Berber languages (plural). This bad change occurred a couple of months ago.

Before this rediculous change, the code {{lang-ber|.......}} has always displayed Berber as it should, just like the code {{lang-en|........}} always displays English instead of the rediculous English languages (as in the dialects of UK, US, AUS, NZ, CAN...).

I assume this person who changed the display of the code {{lang-ber|.......}} is arguing that there are many Berber languages/dialects. But this is the case in all languages of the world with no exception. Every language has sub-languages and dialects and accents. The Berber language (local name: Tamazight or Amazigh) is specified as ONE SINGLE SINGULAR language in the two official and current constitutions of the countries of Morocco and Algeria.

Here are the English translations of the constitutions of Morocco and Algeria:


(Page: 4. Article 5).


(Page: 4. Article 4).

The Berber language is considered as one single language by its own native speakers.

If you claim that there are many Berber languages then you should accept that there are many English languages (US, UK, AUS, Indian...etc) and many Arabic languages and many Chinese languages and you should display them as such on Wikipedia.

This language code {{lang-ber|.......}} must be restored to its old and original Wikipedian expression/display which is simply: Berber.


--Tussna (talk) 15:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The change was apparently to comply with ISO 639-2, see ISO 639-2#Collections of languages. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

How to cite a PDF?[edit]

Pretty straightforward. I tried citing a PDF like a regular website but it failed. Please help. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 17:53, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

UNSC Luke 1021 , it's just the same eg <ref name= RSPBintro> {{cite web | url = | title = RSPB Ham Wall National Nature Reserve | publisher = RSPB | access-date = 4 April 2018 }} </ref> gives "RSPB Ham Wall National Nature Reserve" (PDF). RSPB. Retrieved 4 April 2018.  Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: Oh well, I must have been making a mistake. Thank you. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 18:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@UNSC Luke 1021: Because of how some websites embed PDF's, the VE citoid module cannot always extract sufficient metadata to complete the citation. In this case, you can use the "manual" reference generator and use cite web/book/journal as appropriate. Mdann52 (talk) 18:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Copied template[edit]

Might someone be kind enough to help me with Template:Copied? For some reason I'm having difficulty getting it to render properly.

The source page was 2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests and revision ID 837994923; part of it was copied to create 2018 Nicaraguan protests at 15:27, 24 April 2018, revision ID 838040342. I'm trying to record this properly on the talk pages, but the latter diff is not linking properly. I can get Template:Split_article to work but there's a content discussion ongoing on whether the new page will really be a split or instead subpage to elaborate on the original page, so I'd prefer just to use the more generic copy template if possible.

Thanks for your assistance, I'm sorry if I'm overlooking something obvious. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The diff parameter is a url and not just a revision id:
{{Copied|from=2014–2018 Nicaraguan protests|from_oldid=837994923|to=2018 Nicaraguan protests|diff=}}.
PrimeHunter (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
A million thanks PrimeHunter; I had tried the URL, haven’t the faintest idea how I managed to screw it up. Thanks for sorting me out! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Issue with important life-saving link[edit]


I am very active in an alcohol recovery community on Reddit, and we often link your article on kindling to those who are new to sobriety. The problem is that the link itself is really messed up and it reroutes to the disambiguation or elsewhere. This is a huge problem because that link can make the difference between someone deciding to go to the hospital for lifesaving treatment or deciding not to. A URL issue in that moment could be disastrous. I know this seems small but it really isn't.

It seems as though the problem occurs with the last parenthesis, before the hashtag. It's like the URL disappears with that parenthesis when we post the link. I know that this might be Reddit-specific, but if you can help you could literally save a life.

The link works fine for me, and in any case you shouldn't rely on Wikipedia links not change or for Wikipedia to be always available. RudolfRed (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
What link specifically is not working for you? I clicked the link in your post and it works. I also created Kindling (alcohol) as another link to reach the section linked. The link to Kindling needs to be a disambiguation page because there are different articles related to "kindling".--Frmorrison (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
You failed to link a Reddit page with the problem so we cannot see what you do wrong. I guess you write a raw url like
and rely on Reddit software to turn the text into a link. Many programs will omit an ending parenthesis from a url when turning it into a link. If your software links without ) then that page says "Did you mean: Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal)?" at the top so it's easy to get to the right page. I don't know your software but it probably works if you encode ) as %29:
PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I've created a redirect from Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal. Maybe that helps? Maproom (talk) 06:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

April 25[edit]

Filmography Tables for Actors[edit]

Help! :)

Ok, not a big deal and I am trying to nip something in the bud.

While on RC patrol, I ran across two articles of actors where an IP editor is: -removing filmography tables -misquoting policies to justify their position -making up policies -insisting that if the tables are kept they be be as bare as possible (no info about awards etc). -exhibiting WP:OWN attitudes and behaviors

What I am looking for: Some other users with experience to look at these pages, especially someone who has lots of experience in film and acting pages, especially with tables Ways to find such editors... I have looked on Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers and don't see a place I can post.

Articles in question: Desmond Tan and Zen Chong

Basically I am concerned about a lot of work being lost through made up standards for film and actor tables. Thanks (ps if there is a better place to post this, please let me knowSethie (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Tables are acceptable in filmographies. (I personally don't like them, but only because they're extra work.) AFAIK, there is no policy or guideline that prohibits them, and I've been active in editing film-related articles for at least a decade. A couple of observations though. First, TV series don't belong in a filmography. They should go in a separate section. Second, we generally don't include billing positions in the notes. Third, I don't quite know what "pairs with" means exactly, and if it's what I suspect, it's not particularly noteworthy. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! (you are welcome to weigh in at either page btw) Sethie (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
It seems this will affect a number of articles and some form of consensus would be required. Perhaps a place to raise this would be at WT:FILM? Eagleash (talk) 03:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thats my concern too, appreciate the lead will post on WP:FILM. Sethie (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Login Attempts[edit]

Haven't found information about this anywhere else, so figured I'd ask here. I'm not too active anymore, but for the past year (perhaps longer, since LoginNotify was launched) someone has been really, really determined to get into my account and I'm not quite sure why. I've gotten perhaps 50 failed login emails at this point, and they're still going at it from a host of different IP addresses. Not quite sure what my question is, just looking for insight or perhaps information on what can be done (if anything). Shaun 05:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Shaun: Your username is a very common name, so it is very likely to be in the list of some bot that just tries things. If your username is sufficiently strong (say over 12 characters long or something) and not used for any other website, then their really is nothing to worry about, and in your case i would then suggest to simply turn off the notification for such attempts in your preferences. But make sure your your password is secure enough, because the attempts are not likely to stop. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 06:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Shaun: I was worried about this too so I created a committed identity so that if someone does get into my account I can prove my true identity. Basically, you go to a website like this and enter a string of characters that you won't forget and nobody would guess (something that you will both never forget and will never need to change). If your account gets compromised and you're completely locked out, and people are unsure if you are really you, you just send that private string to ArbCom or whomever and they'll be able to verify that you're the legit person by just running that private string through the website and seeing that the output hash matches what's on your userpage. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Wow sorry I forgot. You use this template, Template:Committed identity, and put your hash on your user page (you can see mine on my userpage for example). You don't just keep the hash on a piece of paper at home. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Shaun and HickoryOughtShirt?4: Actually the nobody would guess part of the committed identity is not needed. The hash (i.e. the string of gibberish characters you get as output) is seemingly random, but you do not need it to be "hard to guess" (unless you are extremely concerned about privacy, e.g. if your Wikipedia contributions would expose you to arrest by the local authorities); for the committed identity purpose, you want it "hard to fake", i.e. it should be hard to produce a collision attack (another string that has the same hash but indicates another person).
For instance, I can give some info about my committed identity string: it is of the form "<first name> <last name> (<email address>) is Tigraan", with the email address the standard firstname.lastname@domain and the domain contains only letters and at most 15 of them. This information makes it easier for you to guess what the string is, but it makes it harder to find a collision while respecting the given format (while controlling the given email and having ID for the name you give). TigraanClick here to contact me 14:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
  • One comment, you do want to write down somewhere the exact string that you hash. Just knowing it's your name and email and such isn't enough. A difference as small as an extra comma, etc, is enough to make the resulting hash completely different. CrowCaw 15:48, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Venda article: can't see how to remove nonsense text[edit]

The history section of Venda begins "Today, I went to the beach front with my kids. caaaakafbfdcabcf" but when I try to remove that, it doesn't appear in the edit window. What's going on? --A bit iffy (talk) 09:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@A bit iffy: It was vandalism to the 'SouthAfrica state' template used in the article. Corrected with this edit. Eagleash (talk) 09:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks.--A bit iffy (talk) 10:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Publish a page[edit]

I have drafted a page, how do I go about publishing it on wikipedia? Any help, advise and guidance will me much appreciated.— Preceding unsigned comment added by AR40422 (talkcontribs) 13:16, 25 April 2018 13:16 (UTC)

@AR40422: Hello, This presumably relates to Draft:Sultan Bahadar Aziz. It will need a little bit of work before it is ready for mainspace. When you consider it is appropriate you can place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page, which will submit it for review. In the meantime I will leave some helpful links at your talk page and you should also read WP:YFA and WP:REFB which is a basic guide to adding references. Please remove the bluelinks from headings. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:48, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: many thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by AR40422 (talkcontribs) 13:51, 25 April 2018 13:51 (UTC)

Speed of Wikipedia coverage[edit]

How fast does Wikipedia write about events? I'm asking here for wording in page wp:About, which has claimed "within minutes" but I prefer phrase, "within hours" to wait on published sources to post details after/during a major event. Otherwise a claim of "minutes" seems to strongly imply first-person observations written about an event. Should this speed issue be an RfC topic and at wt:About? -Wikid77 (talk) 14:27, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually Wikid77, "within minutes" is pretty accurate. Pretty much as soon as news hits someone creates an article, and often two or three that need to be merged with one another once they find each other. Whether that's a violation of WP:NOTNEWS has been the subject of some debate. GMGtalk 14:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Hello Wikid77. You may want to read the more detailed advice at WP:BREAKING and the links from there. Basically, there is no limit to how fast articles about current events should be written, and in practice worldwide-news events usually get written about very quickly (in the internet area, news reports can arrive extremely fast after the event), but that should not be done at the detriment of quality.
As for changing the wording of a particular page, before launching a full-scale RfC, why not post on the talk page (WT:About) first? RfCs are usually the last-resort option when multiple editors fail to find a consensus, so do not resort to them before you have even tested the waters. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks folks for the advice. -Wikid77 (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Creating an article by translation?[edit]

May I translate an entry from another language into English to create a page?

Short answer: if that "entry" is from another Wikipedia, yes. If it is from elsewhere on the internet, probably not.
See Wikipedia:Translation for the long answer. In particular pay attention to licensing requirements (usually just saying "translated from the article at Foo at date X" is ok, though you can do better) and do not use raw machine translation (proofread it before posting). TigraanClick here to contact me 14:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Take a look[edit]

Can someone take a look at Ola Cabs? A lot of IP edits seems to have added a lot of unwanted content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:00, 25 April 2018‎ (UTC)

Mistake about May Day[edit]

Why this map shows that Labor Day in Belgium is not on May 1st? I can garantee you that "la fete du travail" is a national holiday in Belgium. Ericdec85 (talk) 16:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: and also in Luxembourg, Slovakia and Poland. This map is just wrong. Should check again every single country. 16:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)16:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)~~

Hello, Ericdec85. That file File:International_Observance_of_Labour_Day.png is in Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia, so you should take up the matter there, either on its talk page, or that of the Commons user Azurescapegoat, who created it. --ColinFine (talk) 22:42, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Random featured article[edit]

Hi, I know there is a "Random article" feature, but is there any way to bring up a random featured ("gold star") article? (I know that I can go to and click somewhere at random myself.)

Okay, so you know the 2 boxes at the top of the Featured article page? On the right one, there is a link you can click called "Random featured articles" which will put you at a random featured article. Alternativly, you can click this link instead. Happy reading!💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 22:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

👍💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 00:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

April 26[edit]

Diana, Princess of Wales[edit]

This sentence is at the end of the Early Life section of this page - She resented Raine, whom she called a "bully", and in one occasion "pushed her down the stairs.

To me, the grammar is incorrect i.e. - in on one occasion.

Please repair if you agree. Thanks (talk) 05:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you having problems logging in? Eagleash (talk) 05:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The Avengers: Infinity War page contains the entire plot (including spoilers) before the release of the movie[edit]


We don't censor plot spoilers. If someone does not want to ruin the story for themself they should not read the article. The movie has been released so there's no problem discussing the plot. The issue of whether the plot is too detailed, or is improperly sourced or copied is under discussion at Talk:Avengers:_Infinity_War#Revert_request_to_"short_plot"_version Meters (talk) 06:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


How do I create my profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincent amorosi (talkcontribs) 06:26, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a social media site with "profiles"; it is an encyclopedia with articles on notable subjects. For guidance on how to create an article, see WP:Your first article. If you are asking about how to create a user page, see WP:user pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

removal of incorrect information[edit]


I am hoping to get a line remove from the following page

The line i am wishing to have removed is:

One of Campbell's last acts as the Chief of Army was to end a century of tradition by removing 'death imagery' from patches and badges.

This is not factually correct and the matter that it references is an internal Australian Army matter.

If anything the line can read

As Chief of Army, Angus Campbell issued and internal minute directing personnel to remove 'death symbology' from all items within the Army.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louise Avent (talkcontribs) 06:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

The ususal place to discuss this would be on the talk page of the article. I was considering changing the wording as you requested, but I am not able to view the reference without a subscription here in the UK, so I cannot judge whether your sentence more closely matches the account given in the newspaper. Perhaps you can find another reference that is not behind a paywall? Dbfirs 09:32, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

How to upload/publish an image that I improved into the specific wiki file?[edit]

I have improved an image by adding labels to indicate the orientation of the image. I am new and I don't know how to upload the image to the specific wiki file as an improvement. LimbMagC (talk) 08:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Cell membrane