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Pseudo- vs. Cargo Cult Science[edit]

"Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but does not adhere to a valid scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status."

"Cargo cult science refers to practices that have the semblance of being scientific, but do not in fact follow the scientific method."

I doubt that these introductions are suitable to distinguish the two concepts from each other and believe that Cargo cult science should be revised. Other points in the examples:

  • I do understand why the wrong methodology in the oil drop experiments is considered to be cargo cult science, and neither "true" science, nor pseudoscience. Ok.
  • I do not understand it in the case of Jaques Lacan:

"He became obsessed by a particular mathematical figure called a Borromean knot, in which he saw the key to the unconscious, to sexuality and to the ontological situation of mankind. His quasi-mathematical, pseudological fantasies—the culmination of the cargo cult science of his school..."

— Raymond Tallis
... if Lacan stated things like that, this is pure pseudoscience; I really don't see why we need the concept of cargo cult science here and suspect that Tallis simply confused them or was not aware of their differences?
  • About the Aircraft Cabin Air Sampling Study... without further details this seems to impose the conclusion "Any scientific activity with any fault in method is cargo cult science." Is that so?

--KnightMove (talk) 05:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely good points there. I think none these examples make sense. On the other hand, this might also mean that the term just is inaccurately applied to different kinds of pseudo scientific papers. While this may not be corrected with a Wikipedia article, the vagueness of definition should be made clear in the examples section - or the section should possibly be removed.

-- (talk) 08:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

References appearing in gutters between sections[edit]

Some of the articles being displayed have references in the selected portions, and these are trying to appear in the gutters between the sections. I cannot figure out how to fix this, so hopefully somebody else can! TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 12:50, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

@Phil Boswell: I think this was a problem at Portal:Science/Featured article/22, which I have addressed. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, @John, that seems to have fixed it. I suppose the references could have been replaced with raw links but eitherway it's tidier now. I wonder whether it's worth cobbling up an editnotice to explain it in future. —Phil | Talk 15:29, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2016[edit]

There several types of science.

Goddyliz (talk) 10:59, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 15:04, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2017[edit] (talk) 15:42, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:51, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2018[edit]

Arun46564 (talk) 13:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Ivecos (t) 14:34, 29 January 2018 (UTC)